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👋 Cuneyt here. There’s a split-screen across the country: Eleven cities have robotaxis — they may not be flying cars, but SF and Atlanta seem far in the future compared to us.

  • D.C. is now debating an ambitious bill to regulate robotaxis, authored by Council member Charles Allen (and coming after a torturously long wait — we’re still waiting — for DDOT’s infamous robotaxi report).

In this week’s podcast, I spoke to Matt Walsh, who is the east region head for Waymo’s policy shop, and who submitted to hours of testimony last week at the D.C. Council.

  • We talked about proposed caps on robotaxis, Waymo’s response to labor’s accusations that it’s trying to “steamroll” D.C., and whether the company can make peace with a Janeese Lewis George administration.

You can find the cliffnotes edition in my Axios D.C. summary of our convo, where I pointed out some people are some squeamish about getting in a driverless car:

  • "Take the leap," says Walsh, who recalls "white-knuckling the door handle" the first time he got in one, too. "After that first 30 to 45 seconds, it became so normal to me."

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